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1810 Chapter 9 Discussion


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    Nick Palmisano
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    Nick Palmisano

    Purpose

    This activity is designed to improve and develop a better understanding of the Module’s topics. The activity incorporates both critical thinking and the application for the Fire Officer.

    Discussion Post Instructions:

    Review Chapter 9 in your textbook.
    Review Module 9’s Learning Resources unit and slides.
    Post your response to the Discussion Forum.

    Discussion

    What would be your ventilation consideration for a fire in a supermarket?

    Discussion Post Requirements

    Your initial post must be a minimum of 100 words.

    You must respond to at least two of your classmates. Each response must be a minimum of 50 words.

    All discussion postings must be typed directly into the discussion forum.

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    jonathan shadoin
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    jonathan shadoin

    My consideration for ventilation for a fire in a supermarket would be, ventilation would need to be accomplished to assist in store evacuation and for firefighting. When confronted with smoke conditions, and when there are occupants still in the supermarket, there will be an immediate need for ventilation to assist in evacuation and rescue to minimize the number or severity of injured occupants. The exact method of ventilation could involve utilizing the built in features such as operable hatches, skylights, the exhaust capability of the HVAC system, etc. The lack of windows may be overcome by attempting cross ventilation by opening rear and front doors. Opening the roof is also an option, if no roof hatches or skylights exist. The IC must recognize that ventilation openings will create flow paths, and if water is not being placed onto the fire, it will accelerate. Trucks and trailers parked in loading zones will need to be removed to maximize ventilation. Removal of large plate glass windows in the front of stores will allow a tremendous influx of air. Wind conditions also need to be considered. Ventilation of the plate glass windows needs to be coordinated with the interior crews.

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    KYLE FLEMING
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    KYLE FLEMING

    Ventilation in a supermarket fire requires careful planning due to the building’s large open floor plan, high ceilings, and potential fuel load. Horizontal ventilation is often preferred, using existing doors and windows to release heat and smoke while maintaining structural safety. Positive-pressure ventilation (PPV) may be effective if applied correctly and coordinated with interior crews. Roof operations must be approached with caution, as lightweight truss construction is common and prone to early collapse under fire conditions.

    Smoke can quickly bank down and reduce visibility, endangering occupants and firefighters. Coordination with suppression efforts is critical to prevent fire spread when introducing air. Ventilation must also consider the presence of hazardous materials like cleaning supplies and refrigeration units. Overall, safety and communication are essential.

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    KYLE FLEMING
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    KYLE FLEMING

    You make very good points about the supermarket fire DE Shadoin. Ventilation in a supermarket fire is essential for both evacuation and fire suppression. With smoke reducing visibility and threatening occupants, immediate ventilation can aid rescue efforts and reduce injuries. Utilizing built-in features like skylights or HVAC systems can be effective, and if needed, creating openings such as removing glass windows or using doors can establish airflow. However, it must be coordinated with suppression efforts, as improper ventilation may intensify fire spread through established flow paths.

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