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2120 Chapter 13 Discussion


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    Nick Palmisano
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    Nick Palmisano

    Purpose

    This activity is designed to improve and develop a better understanding of the Module’s topics. The activity incorporates both critical thinking and the application for the Fire Officer.

    Discussion Post Instructions:

    Review Chapter 13 in your textbook.
    Review Module 13’s Learning Resources unit and slides.
    Post your response to the Discussion Forum.

    Discussion

    What restrictions or obstacles are associated with access roads? Do you know of an occupancy with your jurisdiction that currently has access road restrictions?

    Discussion Post Requirements

    Your initial post must be a minimum of 100 words.

    You must respond to at least two of your classmates. Each response must be a minimum of 50 words.

    All discussion postings must be typed directly into the discussion forum.

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    jonathan shadoin
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    jonathan shadoin

    Access roads especially those for construction, agricultural and private use can come with a range of restrictions and obstacles depending on where you are and what the road is for. Depending on the condition of the roads and the environment, emergency vehicles may not be able to directly access the building. Restrictions and obstacles associated with access roads include, Debris and raw materials, vehicles staging on the road as they are loaded and unloaded, construction worker’s vehicles parked in unauthorized locations, Damaged roadways from weather and heavy construction equipment, construction of the final road may affect the temporary access, and excavations that make access difficult and hazardous. For the owner or company responsible for the access roads they have to follow zoning laws, obtain the proper permits, follow easement laws and also follow wetland or environmental regulations. For example building through wetlands, floodplains, or protected habitats require special permits and environmental assessments.

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    KYLE FLEMING
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    KYLE FLEMING

    Access roads are critical for fire apparatus response, and several restrictions or obstacles can affect their effectiveness. Common issues include narrow roadways, weight limits on bridges or driveways, tight turning radii, dead ends without proper turnaround space, and overhead obstructions like low-hanging wires or tree branches. Poorly maintained or unpaved roads can also hinder access, especially for larger fire vehicles. Gated communities or properties with locked entrances may delay response without proper key access or override systems.

    In our zone in South Florida we have some narrow driveways that pass by behind businesses. One in particular is a narrowing one-lane road between a wall and a building in which the Engine and/or Ladder apparatus cannot use. With the new rescues that the department has received, I doubt that these Freightliner chassis could access this road either. In another part of the zone, there is a raised driveway that is at the entrance of a bank. If a apparatus attempts to drive straight up the raised driveway, the apparatus will be high-pointed. For this particular instance, the apparatus must go through the raised entrance at a 45 degree angle.

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    KYLE FLEMING
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    KYLE FLEMING

    DE Ed Shadoin, you make some really good points pertaining to access roads in your jurisdiction. Access roads, especially for construction, agricultural, or private use, often come with challenges that can hinder emergency response. Debris, staged vehicles, unauthorized parking, and weather-damaged surfaces can block or delay access. Temporary roads may be poorly maintained or disrupted by ongoing work, while excavations pose safety risks. Final road construction can also interfere with emergency access. Owners must comply with zoning laws, easements, and environmental regulations, especially when building through wetlands or floodplains. These restrictions highlight the importance of planning and maintaining accessible routes for first responders at all stages of a project.

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